I've been reading through the New Testament, and I haven't had time to go through the whole Old Testament. Is there a section in there where God tells the Israelite men that they can rape Canaanite women? If so, please give me specific passages from the Bible. Thanks. I know that things are different now. They don't defend rape at my church or at any other church that I know of.Is it true that in the Old Testament that God tells the Israelites that they can rape Canaanite women?
yes its true, because canaanite women had big hootersIs it true that in the Old Testament that God tells the Israelites that they can rape Canaanite women?
I don't think this speaks of the Canaanites specifically but it does speak toward raping women being ok
(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
No. The Canaanite women could be taken as WIVES, if they CHOSE to be taken as wives. An Israelite male was commanded to take her into his house, and give her several months (I think 3, but its been a while since I learned this, it might be more). During those months he is not to touch her. These months are for her to grieve any family she lost in the battle, any husband who might have been killed, etc.
After that amount of time, the Israelite may marry her IF SHE AGREES to the marriage.
There is no rape.
No. Actually if the people of a city were taken over when the Israelite armies conquered them they could marry a woman if they found they liked them but they could not treat them with disrespect. That is probably in Deuteronomy because I just finished reading it a few weeks ago.
I remember years ago reading a passage that contributed (old testement or not) to giving up my christian faith.
A man seeks shelter in the home of one of God's men. When the sinful town-folks hear that the man of god is in-town, the try to break down the door and tell the home owner to send out his guest so they can defile him (butt rape him). As the visitor is a man of God, the homeowner instead sends out his daughter and tells the hostile crowd instead of harming a man of god, to take his daughter instead (as women are useless in the old testement anyway right). So the daughter goes out, and is RAPED TO DEATH by the crowd.
God? WTF?
YEP. IT'S ALL THERE. THIGH SAID, ';ISRAELITES, GO GET YOURSELF SOME CANAANITE ASS.';';
DID THOU KNOW THAT A VADGE CAN PUSH OUT A BEANUS?
bible had been changed and after that it changed people to crazy
I have NEVER read such a thing.
GOD bless
No, of course not. It's all in the context.
I don't recall exactly, but I think it's probably even worse than that.
There are some places -- Book of Joshua, I think -- where God demands that the invading Israelites simply kill all of the Canaanites %26amp; destroy their entire culture, even to the point of slaughtering their animals.
God supposedly gets angry at Joshua and his followers because rather than carry out the total genocide that's been ordered, some victorious Israelites have been enslaving Canaanite men and raping the women, turning them into concubines. God supposedly hates this, because he wants all of the Canaanites annihilated without mercy instead.
God says to Joshua (If I remember correctly) that keeping even a few Canaanites alive will lead to the pollution of Israelite religion by Canaanite ';abominations.';
This probably reflects the fiercely anti-idolatry position of some Jewish priest or scribe who wrote the Book of Joshua long after the invasion of Canaan supposedly occurred.
Historically, Israelite society continued to engage in the worship of foreign gods %26amp; idols until long after the reign of King Solomon, as reflected in some of the religous civil wars fought over this issue in the time of the prophet Elijah.
In the Book of Joshua, I think some scribe is looking back hundreds of years to the founding of Israel and Judah and saying, ';We should have killed them all when we first took this land from them; by letting the women survive as concubines, we've allowed idolatry to flourish.';
It's a nasty idea, has no good place in the Bible, I think. But it reflects the mentality of the times..
What you're asking about rape of defeated enemies by Israelite men could also be asked of many different ancient cultures, though.
War in ancient times -- and until very recently, in some places -- was often an excuse for mass rape, along with the looting %26amp; enslavement of a defeated city or defeated culture.
The Roman historian Livy mentions this practice several times in his history of Republican Rome. I think it's also implicit in the Greek tale of the Illiad; after the fall of Troy, the vast majority of Trojan women who survive are probably fated to be raped and turned into concubines by the Greek men. I believe some of the Greek playrights later addressed this subject in tragedies centered around the fate of the Trojan women.
I beleive that during the Christian Middle Ages in Europe, too, the ';sacking'; of a defeated city by a victorious army could involve a lot of rape. The Vikings certainly were farmous for this when they attacked Christian cities and farms at the end of the Dark Ages.
And much too often, we also see mass rapes still occurring in a war-time context in modern times.
Noted examples include the horrifying Japanese rape of Nanking in 1937; the mass rapes that accompanied wars of Serbs against Muslims in Bosnia in the 1990s, and the mass rapes that accompany tribal wars in the Congo today.
See Susan Brownmiller, ';Against Our Will';
http://www.susanbrownmiller.com/susanbro…
Judges 21:10-24 (New King James Version)
10 So the congregation sent out there twelve thousand of their most valiant men, and commanded them, saying, “Go and strike the inhabitants of Jabesh Gilead with the edge of the sword, including the women and children. 11 And this is the thing that you shall do: You shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman who has known a man intimately.” 12 So they found among the inhabitants of Jabesh Gilead four hundred young virgins who had not known a man intimately; and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan.
13 Then the whole congregation sent word to the children of Benjamin who were at the rock of Rimmon, and announced peace to them. 14 So Benjamin came back at that time, and they gave them the women whom they had saved alive of the women of Jabesh Gilead; and yet they had not found enough for them.
15 And the people grieved for Benjamin, because the LORD had made a void in the tribes of Israel.
16 Then the elders of the congregation said, “What shall we do for wives for those who remain, since the women of Benjamin have been destroyed?” 17 And they said, “There must be an inheritance for the survivors of Benjamin, that a tribe may not be destroyed from Israel. 18 However, we cannot give them wives from our daughters, for the children of Israel have sworn an oath, saying, ‘Cursed be the one who gives a wife to Benjamin.’” 19 Then they said, “In fact, there is a yearly feast of the LORD in Shiloh, which is north of Bethel, on the east side of the highway that goes up from Bethel to Shechem, and south of Lebonah.”
20 Therefore they instructed the children of Benjamin, saying, “Go, lie in wait in the vineyards, 21 and watch; and just when the daughters of Shiloh come out to perform their dances, then come out from the vineyards, and every man catch a wife for himself from the daughters of Shiloh; then go to the land of Benjamin. 22 Then it shall be, when their fathers or their brothers come to us to complain, that we will say to them, ‘Be kind to them for our sakes, because we did not take a wife for any of them in the war; for it is not as though you have given the women to them at this time, making yourselves guilty of your oath.’”
23 And the children of Benjamin did so; they took enough wives for their number from those who danced, whom they caught. Then they went and returned to their inheritance, and they rebuilt the cities and dwelt in them. 24 So the children of Israel departed from there at that time, every man to his tribe and family; they went out from there, every man to his inheritance.
If the men lie in wait for the women, ';catch'; them, and take them, it doesn't sound like the women are being given any say in becoming the men's ';wives';. That's rape. But of course that's only the virgin women, seeing as all the non-virgins were already slaughtered, ya know.
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